owsf2000 | Entries tagged with sega

I've officially stepped up to the current generation.

Xbox line is dead to me as I've said many times before, so the only viable option was the PS4.

I may or may not attempt to obtain a Wii U, but from the looks of it I'll need to find one second hand. They're drying up all over the place. We'll see how that goes later this month. I may just give up on the Wii U - if I do it'll be the first Nintendo Console I'll have passed on completely.

The Switch isn't likely going to fair much better with me, but I'll leave final impressions for that after they're out and we see what kinds of games hit it.

Anyway, for the PS4. Yeah, ended up picking up a Slim model this week since the Uncharted bundle is 50 dollars off. Honestly I would have preferred to get a Pro system, but the price difference between the two models is about 200 bucks, give or take. I'll probably get one next year or so, but the Slim will tide me over until then.

However I'm doing something new this time. (Trying to do anyway!)

I'm going to try to make sure I actually play anything I buy. Rather than buy something (Admittedly on a sale normally) and then never touch it. This is actually going to mean less money for Sony overall. :P But I'm fine with that.

Currently I have Mighty No. 9, Touhou Rondo Bullet, and the Uncharted game that came with the bundle. So we'll keep it at that going forward. Maximum of 3 games "open". If the game can be completed, it'll have to be completed sufficiently to be considered "closed". If it's one that can just be played endlessly I'll just have to play it enough to feel like I got my money's worth (while obtained a certain level of skill at it, where applicable!)

For Mighty No. 9, it's pretty obvious I just need to complete it. For the Touhou game, I guess I'll have to complete all story modes. Already have Reimu's path done. Marisa is next. Uncharted isn't really my type of game, but I'll attempt completing it all the same. Might actually end up liking it, who knows.

Reason I plunked down the cash though is because I found out that the next Project Diva game will be released (digitally only) on the PS4 on January 10th. Yeah, boycott of sega and all that. They already caused me to pass on the Project Mirai game on the 3DS, and I've avoided any and all DLC purchases on Project Diva X on the Vita (not going to touch that game on the PS4) as well as I can confirm I've picked up - then put down - at least 3 Sega games in between them. IE: Games I was going to purchase - until I saw who published/developed it. So yeah, they're losing cash, not that they notice it.

I played this upcoming project diva game already last summer though, so I know I want it. While most of it's rehash of the previous games, they're done in HD and higher quality modules. Someone had brought in their PS4 to the Animaritime convention during the summer - where they have a japanese account set up and games purchased from the japanese store. That's how I got a chance to play it.

I'm not going to say 100% that I won't buy any DLC for that game. The thing is I'll have to buy a 50 dollar card and 20 dollar card (or 3 20 dollar cards.. that's more work though.) in order to buy Project Diva Future Tone/Colorful Tone. It's a bundle of 2 games. Juuuust over 50 dollars. How convenient. I'll see what they decide to have as DLC - I might use the excess on some of it, or I'll hold on it until the next purchase, which will probably be Touhou Scarlet Curiousity. Another fanmade touhou game on the ps4 - an rpg by the looks of it.

I've had Plus membership on the PS3 (well, all of Sony's platforms, given it's shared nature, but primarily used via PS3) for years. Many years. I'd have to admit I spent far more money buying games digitally than I ever planned. I was going to spend about 40 bucks to "customize" the PS3 as it were the same way I did to the 360.

On the 360, I spent 40 bucks. And that's it. Didn't have even the slightest urge to go over it.

On the PS3, I admit I did go over. By several (several) hundred dollars. I'd like to say I got my money's worth since virtually everything I bought was bought on a drastic sale. There's also a load of free rentals. I call them rentals because you can only play them while you retain the Plus membership.

And that ran out for me. Over 6 weeks ago.

Pretty drastic change for me isn't it? To someone who would check the store every single week for deals, even if there was nothing I particularly wanted. To... apparently someone who barely turns the PS3 on, let alone check the online shop.

What exactly caused this change? I think I can safely thank Sega and Sony from last year's bumbled DLC rollout for Project Diva F 2nd.

So looking back over the last year, has my boycott been all talk or did it have teeth? Thus far, it most certainly had teeth. I completely passed over Project Diva Mirai on the 3ds, which under normal circumstances would have been a Day 1 purchase even without having a console/handheld to play it on. (Only recently picked up a 3ds.) There was another potential game purchase I was going to pick up a month ago. I was half way to bringing it to the cash when I noticed Sega's logo on the front. I sighed and put the game back. Pretty sure I haven't bought any Sega game since starting the boycott either - although if it was a cheap second hand title I potentially would have not cared. Even then I don't think I've aquired any new Sega games.

And... I'm not missing it. I have to admit there's a potential chance that I'll pick up the PS4 Project Diva game depending on how it's done - assuming it's released in NA. (I played the japanese version at the anime convention.) But that'll naturally assume I'll buy a PS4. Right now it'll depend on the VR situation on the PS4 later on.

One thing I can safely say however, is that I won't be buying any Plus membership again (actually not 100% true.) on the PS3 or PS4. And I'm pretty sure I'll be able to keep a handle on any digital purchases this time around.

Regarding the above bracketed comment, I -might- purchase one last 3 month prepaid Plus card for the PS3. Mainly to clear up one question that's been nagging me for years that I've never been able to get a straight answer for. If my Plus lapsed but I renewed it later, would the Free games from before the lapse become playable again. I could never bring myself to let it lapse to test this out. But since I apparently don't give a fuck about it anymore (as shown by it taking me 6 weeks to even realize it had lapsed - pronounced more so since the Plus membership would cause my PS3 to wake up every morning between 4-6am to do updates/backups if I had played it the day before.) I might as well test it out and get some closure on the subject.

So um. Fuck you Sega. :)

We'll see if I say the same thing to Sony after we see the final costs/situation with their VR setup when it's released. Giving it a 50/50 chance I'll be saying the same, as I have absolutely no love for the new look of their PS4 Slim model. They better hope their Scorpio model or whatever it's called will be worth it's price tag.

Ok, so SEVEN weeks after the issue began, the bugged batch DLCs for Project Diva F 2nd have finally been fixed. You have to redownload them for it to take effect of course. Specifically, if you have the Vita version of a batch, you'd have to go to the PS3 page for the game and re-download the batch from there. It will say "Free" instead of "$9.99" or "5.99" (depending on the batch involved)

It will still make you download both PS3 and Vita versions again however. Just as well since it'll probably be needed to add it to your download list on the PS3/Vita.

Boycott is still going forward however. 7 weeks is just unacceptable to me and beyond this game series there hasn't been any must have games out of Sega for years anyway. But no more DLC purchases for this game for me (Note: If the Song Club goes on sale for 5 bucks I'll pick it up, but the thing with DLC is that it rarely rarely ever goes on sale. Seriously, if it's at $5.01 I probably wouldn't buy it.) I had some left over money on my account still (like 4-5 bucks) and the temptation to buy any DLC for the game just wasn't there. I think it's safe to say I'm done with handing Sega money.

We'll see where we stand when they bring out the Project Diva Arcade. Right now I seriously want nothing to do with it, especially if it ends up as a clusterfuck of DLC like this game did. I will definitely not be buying multiple versions of the game like I have for the first two. I'll hold off on absolute final judgement for when it's actually released but right now the odds are not in it's favor.

Just an update on the situation, more to vent than anything else.

Short Story: Absolutely no change.

It's been 5 weeks now, and Sega/Sony are still failing to deliver on what they promised after taking the $9.99. They're probably lucky that their fuck up at the very least let me download the Vita version of the DLC, even if there's no way to redownload it now since it won't let me from the PS3's download list and they've now removed the DLC pack in question from the store itself.

I sent an email to Sony Support once a week asking for an update and I kept getting no response after the first automated email.

So last week I said to hell with trying to reply to that particular ticket and sent a completely new (but mostly copied from the original) email which forced their system to open a new ticket. After a day or so I got a reply from someone there on the new ticket - which was the standard copypasta response a person would expect "thanks for emailing. we're looking into it. we'll let you know". in other words "blah blah blah lip service lip service"

They did finally fix a different DLC issue with the game, with two modules not showing up for free for the people that shelled out 70 dollars to buy the club pack. Took them 4 weeks to fix that - since that issue iirc started the week AFTER the suimsuit pack issue. But apparently people have to use the search option to even find those modules now since they're currently not listing with the game properly. Can't make it simple after all.

Yeah, I'm pretty much done with Sega now whether they fix this issue or not. It's simply inexcusable.

You know what the fun thing is? This means Sega's incompetence (which is likely augmented by Sony's incompetence anyway) is going to cost Sony a lot of money out of me. In order for me to jump up to the PS4 Sony needs to have several must-buy titles that are exclusive to it. Currently there's NOTHING I want on the system and I doubt JRPGs are going to woo me to it since I've already boycotted most of the companies that release them due to DLC whoring. Sega's apparently planning on releasing the next Project Diva game on the PS4 - which is just a home console port of the arcade game. (So we can expect them to half ass game development again this time by just converting the game itself, then expecting players to shell out another 100 bucks for a few bonus songs and modules like they did this game.)

Sega Boycott -> Not buying Project Diva Arcade -> One less Must Have Game on the PS4 (Which is otherwise still only at "1", assuming the arcade game is ported to PS4 - haven't seen confirmation yet)-> Not likely getting a PS4 at all, which means also not buying any other less-than-must-have title on the system that I'd only consider buying if I already had the system bought.

I bought a PS3 originally due to wanting to play Ar Tonelico 3. That was the Must Have game on that platform for me. And it failed to impress in so many ways I've still yet to make it even half way through the game. The project diva games actually saved the system for me, making it feel like I DIDN'T waste a few hundred bucks on an otherwise pointless console at the time. That's not going to be there for the PS4, and I can't think of a single game or genre of games that can fill the shoes.

Sony's going to lose a lot more of my cash than Sega ever could. They won't notice it, but I will. $_$

And no, this doesn't increase the chances of me getting a Xbone. That still sits firmly at 0%.

It DOES however slightly increase the odds for a Wii U next year. I can't say I agree with a lot of things with the Wii U, but it does have games I'm interested in playing at some point. That's something the other current gen systems can't boast about.

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Also, unrelated to the above, but it's seriously fucked up that the best way to access the PlayStation Store is through any means OTHER than Sony's own hardware. If you try accessing it from the PS3, there's an extremely high chance it'll kick you out/crash before you can actually purchase anything. It's why people tell you to buy things from the playstation store's website instead then download it via your system in the download history. Laughable really.

Ok, it's been over 3 weeks now and the DLC issues for the Hatsune Miku game are still not fixed for the NA store. Personally they won't even grace me with a reply to my emails, although apparently they're replying to some other people - although all they're telling them is that there's no update and not even an ETA for when they expect the issue to be resolved.

I've been fuming enough as it is at the excessive DLC whoring Sega's put into this game to begin with, so the fact that they have so much DLC that they can't even get the damned shit released properly is just the straw that breaks the camel's back.

No more. Not any game whatsoever. I don't even give a shit if there's no DLC released on the game or if Sega's CEO swears to me in person that the game will never have DLC added to it. I'm not purchasing another game by Sega. The level of this personal boycott is at the level of Sony Music Boycott. They could try to PAY me to take their games and I'll chuck it back at them. I'll probably still keep the money but yeah, their games will be tossed back at their feet!

What does this mean to Sega? It does mean that they'll be losing money. Will they notice? No. They'll just assume there's an extra pirate out there or something rather than them losing a paying customer over their bullshit.

What does this mean to me? I get to keep a few extra hundred dollars a year for other things! Will -I- notice? Fuck yeah.

And that's all that matters to me.

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In other news, my own game is moving along nicely. :p