Minecraft No More?
Jun. 5th, 2022 06:35 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
owsf2000Finally happened. Microsoft decided to force me to migrate.
And the migration failed spectacularly.
The key problem is that I registered originally with my lycos email account. Lycos deleted all free email accounts back on June 1st, 2018.
I also never upgraded to an Mojang account. I still had a Minecraft account. They were prepared for people being like that, however it all comes to naught because the very first thing they do, and they generally should in most cases, is try to verify who you are by sending an email to the account you have associated with the account.
Oops. Can't do that now can I. I sent a support ticket although it asked for a hell of a lot of information that I honestly don't have memory of or access to. Like, do you remember the month and year you signed up for minecraft? Are you sure? Do you still have that transactional ID? What if you were gifted a fucking code and wouldn't have that information?
So yeah. I really don't expect anything to be done other than "I'm afraid you'll have to rebuy the game you bought."
To which the odds are very likely I'll not be doing. I can't even run the latest version of java minecraft on my computer because of their new "security features". And when I was able to plya 1.16 after they upgraded the launcher for that, I found it did a lot of fucked up shit with the save files I had.
In short, if I started the launcher with a modded jar, it would only let me see new worlds. IE: NONE. Except the new one I started, aptly called "I hate Mojang". But if I started the launcher with an unmodded jar, it would show me all my old worlds. Worlds I couldn't play very well because I fucking well need to use optifine to make Minecraft run on this comp.
Yeah, whatever. I'll rethink about what I want to do with Minecraft when I get a new computer, which might not be until the fall at the earliest. Regarding the rest of Microsoft, I'm just putting the entire thing on a boycott. I may still use Windows as the OS, although it'll be the free version you typically get with a new computer. For pretty much everything else from hardware to software though, I'll probably choose an alternative whenever possible.
That's how much I ain't enjoying them fucking this shit up. Kinda expected this day to come ever since Notch sold out, but whatever. Next time I post about Minecraft will either be when I finally rebuy it with the new computer (There are a variety of conditions associated with that so it's far from a definite thing) or when I see a news report saying Mojang is being discontinued with Microsoft absorbing Minecraft into it's internal studios. "To better serve the players" of course. Like this whole forced account migration. If anything actually happens with the support ticket I'll probably just update this post.
(Update)
Support updated my email tagged to my minecraft account for me. I guess my predicting the proper account and supplying proof about lycos discontinuing their free accounts etc was sufficient. It's possible they also tried emailing those accounts as a test, and when their emails bounced they'd know the accounts were indeed no longer valid.
Even with that it took me about 40 minutes to actually migrate my account. I'll blame myself in that since I surf with noscript on, and that does cause problems when a website is set up in such a way to hide scripts until they're actually used. So I'd allow all the scripts noscript was stopping, then try to continue - only to have it fail. Then when looking at the scripts again I'd see another 3-4 fucking scripts in the list.
Apparently I already have a microsoft account. All xbox live accounts were turned into microsoft accounts I guess (or were from the start). The hell if I could find my password for that so had to reset it. Which took a couple tries because of the above mentioned noscript BS.
And it took another 10 minutes to figure out how to sign in to the launcher again after that. Kept using the mojang button by accident.
So I get to keep using Minecraft for now.
And the migration failed spectacularly.
The key problem is that I registered originally with my lycos email account. Lycos deleted all free email accounts back on June 1st, 2018.
I also never upgraded to an Mojang account. I still had a Minecraft account. They were prepared for people being like that, however it all comes to naught because the very first thing they do, and they generally should in most cases, is try to verify who you are by sending an email to the account you have associated with the account.
Oops. Can't do that now can I. I sent a support ticket although it asked for a hell of a lot of information that I honestly don't have memory of or access to. Like, do you remember the month and year you signed up for minecraft? Are you sure? Do you still have that transactional ID? What if you were gifted a fucking code and wouldn't have that information?
So yeah. I really don't expect anything to be done other than "I'm afraid you'll have to rebuy the game you bought."
To which the odds are very likely I'll not be doing. I can't even run the latest version of java minecraft on my computer because of their new "security features". And when I was able to plya 1.16 after they upgraded the launcher for that, I found it did a lot of fucked up shit with the save files I had.
In short, if I started the launcher with a modded jar, it would only let me see new worlds. IE: NONE. Except the new one I started, aptly called "I hate Mojang". But if I started the launcher with an unmodded jar, it would show me all my old worlds. Worlds I couldn't play very well because I fucking well need to use optifine to make Minecraft run on this comp.
Yeah, whatever. I'll rethink about what I want to do with Minecraft when I get a new computer, which might not be until the fall at the earliest. Regarding the rest of Microsoft, I'm just putting the entire thing on a boycott. I may still use Windows as the OS, although it'll be the free version you typically get with a new computer. For pretty much everything else from hardware to software though, I'll probably choose an alternative whenever possible.
That's how much I ain't enjoying them fucking this shit up. Kinda expected this day to come ever since Notch sold out, but whatever. Next time I post about Minecraft will either be when I finally rebuy it with the new computer (There are a variety of conditions associated with that so it's far from a definite thing) or when I see a news report saying Mojang is being discontinued with Microsoft absorbing Minecraft into it's internal studios. "To better serve the players" of course. Like this whole forced account migration. If anything actually happens with the support ticket I'll probably just update this post.
(Update)
Support updated my email tagged to my minecraft account for me. I guess my predicting the proper account and supplying proof about lycos discontinuing their free accounts etc was sufficient. It's possible they also tried emailing those accounts as a test, and when their emails bounced they'd know the accounts were indeed no longer valid.
Even with that it took me about 40 minutes to actually migrate my account. I'll blame myself in that since I surf with noscript on, and that does cause problems when a website is set up in such a way to hide scripts until they're actually used. So I'd allow all the scripts noscript was stopping, then try to continue - only to have it fail. Then when looking at the scripts again I'd see another 3-4 fucking scripts in the list.
Apparently I already have a microsoft account. All xbox live accounts were turned into microsoft accounts I guess (or were from the start). The hell if I could find my password for that so had to reset it. Which took a couple tries because of the above mentioned noscript BS.
And it took another 10 minutes to figure out how to sign in to the launcher again after that. Kept using the mojang button by accident.
So I get to keep using Minecraft for now.
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Date: 2022-06-05 03:53 pm (UTC)Small companies being bought by (or "merging with") large companies never, ever ends well, except perhaps marginally for the large company and for assholes like Notch who don't give a shit anymore and just want the money. But it never ends well for anyone else, including the small company itself or for former fans of the small company. History has proven this, time and time and time again. And this is another example of it.
As far as Minecraft in general... outside of briefly testing my own conversion to a Micro$hit account from a Mojank account or whatever to make sure the shit still worked, I haven't meaningfully touched Minecraft since whenever was the last time I logged into Pseudo World, however many years ago that was. And I don't foresee that changing any time soon.
And as far as the bullshit about requiring verification to an email you no longer have access too, yeah... I've felt that pain several times, ever since moving back to NC from WA and no longer having access to my old Comcast email. Biggest loss was probably my old Yahoo email, which basically killed my old OtakuWars! Yahoo Group access. (Not that the OtakuWars! Yahoo Group even exists at all any more, of course. And I've since deleted the new Yahoo account I did have access to, due to some asinine corporate bullshit or other that Yahoo was doing at the time.)
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Date: 2022-06-13 09:21 pm (UTC)In addition to Xbox Live accounts, if you ever had a Hotmail account at any point, that was bought by Microsoft ages ago and eventually became part of/was absorbed by Outlook at some point, which in turn also transitioned to using a generalized Microsoft login as well.
Yeah, I had trouble logging in at first when I transitioned from Minecraft/Mojang account over to Microsoft a few months ago, though I was eventually able to get in. Granted, that was only with the Java version. I might try it again just to see if I can still get in.
*pause*
*at least an hour later*
All right, I'm back. I'd just left this window open while I did all of the below.
So I went to the Minecraft site, logged in with my Microsoft credentials, and downloaded the "Minecraft Java & Bedrock Installer" (again, apparently, because I already had a MinecraftInstaller.exe in my downloads folder). Was able to get into the Java edition and create and load into a world (though it still runs like complete dogshit on my computer, and doing so also apparently caused all four cores on my CPU to max out at 100% load and caused Core Temp to go apeshit, repeatedly warning me about some of the cores reaching or exceeding critical temp, 99°C, so I exited the fuck out of it as soon as I could).
After that, just for shits and giggles, I tried to install and run the "Bedrock"/"Minecraft for Windows"/"whatever the fuck they want to call it" edition, just to see what it would do, since the "Install" button was right there in the Launcher. So I clicked it. And, oh fucking boy, what a grand adventure that turned out to be.
So, at first, a very tiny ticker looking thing appeared at the bottom of the Launcher claiming it was trying to download/install it. Then it just said "Error." It wouldn't let me click the Install button again, mainly because it had changed to a grayed out Play button. But then, in the Installation tab, the Install button there was grayed out at this point, too. So... I closed the Launcher and reopened it. The main Install button was back. So I clicked it again. It instantaneously changed to a grayed out, unclickable Play button again. Didn't even do the ticker "Error" thing the second (or third or fourth or tenth) time.
Then I tried to use the "Launcher for Windows 7/8" thing found on the download site, which downloaded a MinecraftInstaller.msi file (as opposed to the MinecraftInstaller.exe file from above). Inside of that different Launcher, the Java edition showed up as installed, and the Bedrock/"For Windows" version showed up as "Incompatible with Launcher." So, nuts to that shit, I guess.
So... after spending far more time on this than it was even remotely worth it to do, I finally found a solution that actually worked.
Just to restate what that says in the proper solution, in case that goes away in the future, here's what I did.
I loaded into the Microsoft Store app that comes with Windows 10. (Ugh! *shiver* It's really gross.) I went to the Library section and cancelled the failed download/installation of Minecraft for Windows. Just for shits and giggles again, I went back into the Minecraft Launcher first and tried again there. Same result as above. So I killed the failed download in Microsoft Store again.
Then I downloaded and installed the Xbox App. In that, I went to My Library and clicked on the first of, for some reason, several Minecraft icons that showed up there.
The first of which just happened to be the right one, i.e. "Minecraft for Windows." (Just to the note, the second one is "Minecraft for Windows + Launcher," the third one is "Minecraft Launcher," the fourth one is "Minecraft Java & Bedrock Edition for PC," and the fifth one is "Minecraft: Java Edition." Note that the last two don't show up as installed, according to the Xbox app, even though they clearly are, because I installed and ran the Java edition from the Minecraft Java & Bedrock Edition Launcher thing that I'd just earlier downloaded from the Minecraft website.)
Anyway, from inside the Xbox App, I installed "Minecraft for Windows." At this point, in all three of the Xbox App, the Microsoft Store App, and the Minecraft Launcher, it finally started showing it actually installing. Then, finally, once the install was complete, a not grayed out Play button appeared in the Minecraft Launcher.
So I clicked that. Shockingly, it actually loaded into the game just fine, finally. Also, for what it's worth, the Bedrock edition runs better on my PC than the Java edition does. That is to say, it did not run like utter fucking dogshit and did not overload and overheat all four of my goddamned CPU cores when I ran it. (Also, the title screen music was new/different/not what I remembered, compared to the Java edition, and I'm not sure I like that.) I created a world and played it just long enough to jump off a mountain and into a chasm, which I somehow survived, only to be immediately killed by a skeleton. I then quit back to the menu and deleted that world. Also, just to note, there are a metric fuckton more options in the starting menu and in world creation in the Bedrock/"For Windows" edition than there are in the Java edition. I didn't really take the time to look at any of that shit, though, other than just to note that there seemed to be a hell of a lot more buttons and sliders and doohickeys than I'd seen in the Java edition.
The gist/TL;DR summary of all of the above: after jumping through a bunch of what I consider to be highly unnecessary hoops, I finally, finally got "Minecraft for Windows" running on my Windows computer, and it actually ran without trying to murder my CPU, unlike the Java edition.
So... if you care to bother with it, it might be worthwhile for you to (attempt to) install and run the Bedrock/"Minecraft for Windows" thing on your comp, if the Java version is still giving you issues. Because apparently, at least for me, the Java version is completely busted and totally unplayable now. And also, apparently, because we already owned the Java edition, that also gives us free access to Bedrock now. I don't remember that being the case in the past, but I guess that has changed in our favor now.
Honestly... I have to admit that I have this really weak, vague, morbid urge to actually maybe try to play a bit of Minecraft for the first time in a very long time now, given that I now have a version that doesn't try to literally set my computer on fire, apparently. I figure that urge will pass momentarily, though.