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And the fears of some of the pro-DLC gamers are starting to materialize as I predicted.

For some reason they're all assuming that their thousands of dollars of DLC that they've purchased over the years to complete the half-finished buggy games they've been buying will be transferable to the next generation's console.

And there's the other, slightly more realistic group that are half-awake now, and praying this generation simply doesn't end so they can continue using their DLC longer.

There is currently NO evidence supporting that any of the console makers have any intention of letting you transfer your DLC to the next generation.

There's no evidence to my knowledge that any of the next generation consoles (Except maybe the Wii U) will even be backwards compatible anyway. So if that's the case, wtf are you expecting to transfer over?

There IS a resaon to believe you will be left high and dry with your DLC. It's what happened last generation with the Xbox. This despite Xbox users flaunting around for that entire generation, and the first couple of years into the 360 generation that their DLC was going to stay available forever because Microsoft's Live servers were paid for by their gold memberships so Microsoft had no reason to take the DLC away from them.

Until Microsoft took original Xbox's off Live that is. For "technical" reasons. I use quotes because I consider the reason given complete BS. A little programming, a little effort, and you'd be able to let the original xbox stay. When you get down to it, there was just no money in it for them.

One reason given for why manufacturers will let DLC be transferred is "If they don't do it, for free, do you think gamers will flock to DLC on the new consoles like they did this generation?"

My answer is: "Yes. They're that stupid and gullible. They bought DLC this generation didn't they? They did it without being assured by the companies that it will stay around forever. And at the rate DLC is being exploited, by the time this generation ends you'll need to buy DLC just to see half of that 60 dollar game you bought anyway. And gamers have shown they'll suck down just about any bug written piece of leaky shit this generation just to support their favorite, poor, exploited developers.

So as this generation closes, I'll say now as I've mentioned to people on Atari Age several times over the years. I'll believe the console manufacturers will let you port your DLC over to the new generation consoles when I see it.

When I see it BEING DONE. Not when I hear them make promises before launch, or promises after launch that it will be added in. Sony has a record of breaking those promises/intentions at the last minute as it is. (Like their original plan/intention to let people convert their PSP UMD's to digital downloads for the PSP-Go. That went NOWHERE.)

This belief is why I've limited my own DLC purchases to a very low level. And I bought them with the understanding that they will only be used on the consoles they're currently on anyway. This has helped reinforce my already strong willpower not to buy every little DLC for every game I've bought, or buying shitloads of download-only stand alone games from PSN.
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I've been strongly curtailing spending shit since the start of March. Overall it's going quite well for getting me on track for saving cash. (Not quite there, but may be there on Monday.)

That being said, I did buy 5 games last weekend. 3 of them were old original xbox games which I got for a buck each. Ah the joys of liquidation.

The other two I got at 25 dollars each. They were at a weekend market in Nova Scotia when I went visiting for a day with my sister. The two games were Mega Man 64, and Xenosaga II.

I've been trying to find Xenosaga II for the last year or two. The cheapest I saw it locally was 50 bucks or so at Gamezilla. My stance against paying new prices for used product kept me from bothering with it. Pays off in the end I guess. The copy I got is near mint, and from what I remember of the copy at Gamezilla, this is in better condition. I now have all 3 volumes of the game so I may start in on it this summer. My apartment gets hot in the summer so I'm not likely to turn on the PS3 for most of it. It'll overheat quickly I'm sure. So in the summer I'll go back to the PS2, Gamecube, and probably original Xbox. Or something more retro. I dunno. You know, systems that won't melt because the room is above 20C.

I picked up Mega Man 64 since I have precious few N64 games. Actually, this is probably the first one. I do have the console already. My nephew is a big fan of Mega Man now (Yes, probably my fault. ;) so odds are I'll be playing that one when I go visit them on the weekends.

I've been thinking of getting a Wii points card lately in order to download a couple of games from Wiiware/Virtual Console. I still have to hook the Wii up to the internet however before I can do that (And it's one of the biggest reasons why I haven't been too tempted with the cards yet.) I have two ways to connect the wii up. Either using the wi-fi connector thing that plugs into my computer, or by using the usb adaptor that I can plug into the wii, then conect the wii directly to the modem via wire.

The wi-fi adapter is apparently not too reliable by some accounts so I'm not entirely sure if I want to bother with that if I can help it. But I have to buy another cord to go the other route.

My plans for purchases on the Wiiware channel are the same as my original plans. At most I'll be buying 1 or 2 point cards. And whatever I buy out of that is all I'm going to spend on it. Essentially to add some games to the console itself. Basically to customize the system a little. The same is what I'm doing on the PS3. I may get another 20 dollar card for the PS3. From the first one I bought Mega Man 9, Mega Man 10, and the DLC content for Mega Man 9. All that added up to just shy of 20 dollars.

Not sure what else I want from the store. I've done extensive searches over it a few months back and saw damned near nothing that interested me. I refuse to buy DLC for any disc game beyond avatar/theme packs. (I consider those things to be OK.) Only reason I let myself get the DLC pack for megaman 9 is because I bought 9 and 10 as a bundle, which saved me about the cost of the DLC. That being said, there are a couple of digital only games that I might consider getting, but we'll see how it goes. I'm not exactly rushing to hand them my money for these things.
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In fact I'm sure I called it years ago.

This is just insane. $260 dollars of DLC. The game isn't even released yet (Although will be this week or next or something I think.)

Some people have mentioned that you need to buy some of that DLC just to complete a tour/season in the game.

For a golf game, the tour season is basically akin to "story mode". So essentially the ending has been gutted from the game to be sold back to you separately. Again, this is assuming what people are saying is true.

Regardless. $260 dollars of DLC for what will be a 60 dollar GOLF GAME. To get the full game, you have to pay 320 dollars. (plus tax where applicable.)

And people wonder why I seem to have all the patience in the world with buying into the current generation consoles.

I'm getting flashbacks to this already. We're not there yet, but we're well on our way!
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A Role Playing Game That Makes You Pay For Your Party Members

I've been fuming over DLC ever since it started to be honest. And more so when it became a bit more common. It's now practically a requirement.

It's also more intrusive and in your face. (See link.)

I don't give a damn about what the industry is doing. I don't care if "everybody's doing it". Just because it's become the standard doesn't make it RIGHT.

I have this bought. Limited edition direct from NIS America's shop. If I had known they had done something like this back before having the preorder placed, I would have never bothered.

I also have Ar Tonelico 3 preordered. It's already bought and paid for. I fear seeing them do something like this with that as well. I will be livid if I find out they actually have more DLC for Ar Tonelico 3's NA version compared to the original Japanese release. (By that I mean them cutting more out of the game to serve as DLC)

Regardless, these are the last two games I will be buying from NIS America. And I am...was... a huge fan of a lot of the things they released over the years. Ar Tonelico 3 can be the best thing since sliced bread and it still won't save them from my future shit list.

I don't even have the damned consoles for this generation yet (Getting a Wii later today tho most likely) and I already feel let down. This might be a good thing in the end. It'll help re-affirm my dedication to stop getting the next gen consoles when they arrive. I'm already dead set against the 3DS, and the PSP2 is looking like it won't be going anywhere with my wallet either.

*update*

Also, just so we're clear. I was planning on tracking down copies, new if possible, of Trinity Universe, Cross Edge, Atelier Ronona, the upcoming Phantom Brave remake (PSP), and Last Rebellion, but ... well, welcome to the shitlist NIS. I know you won't even notice the string of lost sales over the years, in the same way that Gamestop hasn't noticed the 500-700 dollars per year they lose from gutting their merchandise resulting in me not buying from them, but at least I'll have more money to spend on other things.
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This is an article by Stan (A person who happens to post at Atari Age as well) taking a closer look at downloadable content for consoles that brings up the question as to whether or not it's really good for the video game industry overall. In particular, the views he tackles in particular are from the collector/gamer approach than the pure gamer approach.

I tend to agree with what he says, since I love having an actual physical collection. Proof of my purchase, and a far more solid reassurance that the games are actually there rather than on some corrupted hard drive/flash disk/etc.

One thing he didn't deal with however is that DLC is a bit more insidious than simply not being able to even get a game (secondhand or firsthand) 10 years down the road if you didn't buy it when it was first released. Sure you can back stuff up in some cases, but that's not always perfect either.

Consider Heavy Rain. A game that, unlike the DL-only Mega Man 10, has a physical disc that you buy. So for collectors, excellent! You can keep it! Display it! And 10 years later you can play it just the same as now right?!

Right?!

But Heavy Rain, like what seems to be an increasing number of modern games, has a lot of bugs in it. Enough so that on zero-day there was already a large enough patch to download and install that they packed in some origami for players to play with while waiting for it to download and install.

Ten years from now are those bug patches going to be (LEGALLY) available? It's not enough to say "I'm sure they'll do something to ensure gamers aren't affected when the time comes." Because that's nothing more than hopeful guessing. Unless you have some inside knowledge to the contrary, it's far safer to assume that players will be SOL since by then they already have your money.

So 10 years later you have your physical copy of the game and you go to reinstall it to play through it a few more times. At best, you have nothing more than a bug ridden game to enjoy. At worse, the PS3 might refuse to play it at all until you download the by then nonexistent bug patches...

I'm the type of gamer that:

1. Will go back years later and play through a game I've enjoyed in the past.

and

2. Buys so many games at times that it takes years before I even get around to PLAY it for the first time.

Seriously. I have about 20 games from as far back as 2008 that are still factory sealed. And many others before that which I opened and maybe played an hour of before getting distracted by the Next Big Thing that I was more interested in. (I do plan on getting back to Doom 3 at some point for instance.)

So what does this mean for me? It means I spend less money on current gen games ... period. Last thing I want to do is buy a game that I won't have time for for a year or three (but have to buy NOW since it likely won't be easily available by then) and by the time I finally get around to playing it, I find out there are massive game wrecking bugs in it and quite likely by the time I first try to play it the patches will no longer be available.

This is why I'm interested in knowing, in particular, whether there are bugs in modern games. I need it to determine if I will be buying a game or not. Minor bugs such as Cool Ass Weapon never actually dropping from a monster you defeat I can probably live with unless you need Cool Ass Weapon in order to complete the game. Game breaking bugs and annoyances however I plan on avoiding like the plague if possible. If I accidentally buy one with a massive bug patch, I'll probably play through it once then trade it in to go buy something else. Ideally tho I'd prefer to avoid purchasing it altogether.

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